of you but you're going to come out to indiana or kentucky. you're going to come out to nebraska and do it live in front of the american people. sean: or live to tape? >> i would have done it in front of all of america there. she was drawing, 20000, 30,000, 50,000 to hear her speak. why not do the interview in front of those people? sean: that's not a bad idea. there are ways mediawise that people can handle an environment that is predictably hostile. look, i like the governor. i voted for the governor. i've been out on the campaign trail with her. she's a rock store. and she -- if she decides to get in in 2012, she will be a formidable candidate. >> but there are times when her language, when the words that she chooses, i know you got some clips here, there are times when the words she chooses could have been better. there are times when she says things because she is so real, that she will say things that are not as effective as they could have been. sean: but all right. let's say franklin starts advising her -- frank luntz starts advising her.